OCTOBER 13-20, 2025
Strangers in their Own Land
The Apache Tragedy in Old Arizona and New Mexico
Small group van tour with Neil Mangum
UPDATE: INQUIRE ABOUT AVAILABILITY: our 15-passenger tour van for the 2025 tour is now at capacity, but please let us know of your interest. We'll put your name on a WAITING LIST in case of cancellations.
ItineraryOCT 13 (Monday): Check into Phoenix hotel (Drury Inn), and enjoy the “Kickback” spread of complimentary food & beverages (served 5:30pm to 7:00pm). At 7:30 p.m. gather in hotel meeting space (location to be announced) to get acquainted and hear Neil’s orientation talk about the adventure ahead.
OCT 14 (Tuesday): Hotel breakfast. DEPART 8;15am [Emphasis: Crook’s Tonto Basin Campaign]. Stops include Fort McDowell Cemetery (mass grave of Indians killed in the Tonto Basin campaign at Skeleton Cave); exclusive stop at Neil Mangum’s home in Payson for a discussion and viewing of firearms used in the Apache Wars; Fort Verde State Historical Park; lunch buffet stop at Cliff Castle Casino (Yavapai-Apache); Whipple Barracks (volunteers will open the facility for our group); Montezuma’s Castle National Monument; return to Drury Inn. OCT 15 (Wednesday): Hotel breakfast. *** DEPART EARLY (7:30am) *** [Emphasis: San Carlos and White Mountain Apaches]. Old San Carlos Ruins Memorial. Other stops include San Carlos Cultural Center; Globe for Lunch; Cibecue battlefield (includes stop at Salt River Overlook); Ft. Apache Tribal Museum and park; Hon-Dah Resort Casino for dinner and lodging, Pinetop, Arizona. OCT 16 (Thursday): Hotel breakfast. DEPART 8;15am [Emphasis: Warm Springs Apaches, Civil War in New Mexico] Stops include Very Large Array; lunch at Owl Cafe, San Antonio; Valverde, Fort Craig Historic Site; Geronimo Springs Museum, Truth or Consequences for dinner & overnight lodging. OCT 17 (Friday): Hotel breakfast. DEPART 8;15am [Emphasis: Warm Springs Apaches, Mangas Coloradas, Cochise]. Stops include Fort Bayard; Pinos Altos Museum; McComas Massacre marker on the Lordsburg Road; lunch in Deming, New Mexico; Fort Bowie and the Battle of Apache Springs; Cochise Cut Tent Affair; Geronimo Surrender Monument; Douglas for dinner & overnight lodging at the Hotel Gadsden SPECIAL EVENING PROGRAM: Neil has made arrangements for Bill Cavaliere, President of the Cochise County Historical Society, to present a PowerPoint program that takes historic photographs (Apache Wars) and melds them with current images. We'll view his presentation at the Hotel Gadsden, at 7:30pm (details to follow). OCT 18 (Saturday): Hotel breakfast. DEPART 8;15am [Emphasis: Chiricahua Apaches] First stop: Tombstone by the old Charleston Road (free time in Tombstone/early lunch); depart Tombstone at 12:00 noon; Cochise’s West Stronghold, 3:00-4:00: Fort Lowell Museum & grounds; 4:30-5:30: AHS Museum; 5:45 arrive at DoubleTree hotel (dinner on your own) OCT 19 (Sunday): Hotel breakfast. DEPART 8;15am [Emphasis: state historical museums at large]. Stops include Mission San Xavier del Bac; Pima Air & Space Museum; lunch at El Charro Cafe; Arizona Historical Society Museum; John Dillinger sites (Congress Hotel, house where Dillinger was captured); Railroad Depot (Wyatt Earp); Ft. Lowell; Return to Doubletree in Tucson. OCT 20 (Monday): Hotel breakfast. DEPART 8;15am; Tom Jeffords’ grave; Camp Grant Massacre Site; Casa Grande Ruins National Monument, Lunch 12-12:45; Picacho Peak State Park; depart 2:30pm; arrive Sky Harbor Airport (if anyone has a flight): 4:00pm; arrive Drury Inn by 4:30pm. 
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HotelsOCTOBER 13 and 14
Drury Inn (Phoenix) 3333 E University Dr, Phoenix, AZ 85034 OCTOBER 15 Hon-dah Resort Hotel (Pinetop) 777 AZ-260, Pinetop, AZ 85935 OCTOBER 16 Comfort Inn (Truth or Consequences) 2205 N. Date St., Truth Or Consequences, NM, 87901 OCTOBER 17 The Hotel Gadsden (Douglas) 1046 G Avenue Douglas, AZ 85607 OCTOBER 18 and 19 DoubleTree Hotel (downtown Tucson) 280 S Church Ave, Tucson, AZ 85701 OCTOBER 20 Drury Inn (Phoenix) Not included in your registration. We will be able to drop passengers at the airport by Noon on the 20th, before the van returns to the Drury Inn. For those of you staying overnight, I will give you an online booking link next week for the Drury, or of course, you could choose stay at another airport hotel. Some Recommended ReadingGENERAL HISTORIES:
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